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Post by Balgin on Nov 14, 2019 17:38:33 GMT
I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion here (or at least unpopular with me but I came up with it so here we go).
We could try a house rule that units that are not fully painted all have the Devastated status. It's a simple elegant solution to the problem. It's also a very bad solution as a unit could be seriously hampered for months on end while still paying full points to field it. While it would be nice for a unit to become more powerful when it's fully painted this doesn't seem like the best solution to the problem.
A more refined version of this idea would be if the painted portion of the unit is below minimum model count (not preferred model count as that's even more figures). That could still become a long term problem. I've toyed with keeping units of the table until they're near minimum model count so they the movement trays are not insultingly destitute. I kept the crossbowmen mostly a surprise (and there's at least one more surprise on the way) so that you chaps can be pleasantly surprised when I reveal a unit with a significant amount of paint on it.
A better solution would be to encourage and reward painting rather than to penalise it's absence. I'm not sure what manner of rewards would be suitable that would not affect the balance of gameplay too greatly 'though.
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Post by madphil101 on Nov 14, 2019 18:34:22 GMT
Or painted units get to reroll a dice
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Post by Balgin on Nov 14, 2019 18:47:08 GMT
Or painted units get to reroll a dice Nice idea but there are already 5 point magic items that do that. Perhaps they get to do it in their first game as a fully painted unit but not after that. A little celebration that they're finally done.
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2019 23:10:22 GMT
Why not let them have a small upgrade for free
Not that I really know about KOW and game balance
but then what is a painted unit?
silver surfers don't count but 3 colours, green base and a dip do -- or do not
even my 6mm Naps are 12 colours plus dip but are not varnished and anti-shined
where do you draw the line between work-in-progress and fully painted
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Post by Nemesis on Nov 16, 2019 9:55:56 GMT
>.< !! Next youll be saying silly things like "igougo" is soooo yesterday lol How about a different approach of instead of a fixed penalty ( you cant park that baggage train there) At the beginning of the game , your opponent tells of the concessions they will make for each unpainted unit TBH , im not really fussed about it, But then , i like "igougo", and also a bit of ritual humiliation goes a long way
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Post by Balgin on Nov 16, 2019 16:39:38 GMT
How about unpainted units restrict unlocks so they don't unlock as much? Now there's a soft penalty limit that won't directly affect gameplay but will affect list building flexibility?
The only problem with that idea is that it will lead to even more unpainted units due to the fancy stuff not being unlocked yet.
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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2019 17:34:13 GMT
How about unpainted units restrict unlocks so they don't unlock as much? Now there's a soft penalty limit that won't directly affect gameplay but will affect list building flexibility? The only problem with that idea is that it will lead to even more unpainted units due to the fancy stuff not being unlocked yet. interesting idea - so you best get one unit painted to a standard that is still to be agreed upon. Will that include basing effects or will goblin green count?
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Post by Balgin on Nov 16, 2019 17:45:14 GMT
How about unpainted units restrict unlocks so they don't unlock as much? Now there's a soft penalty limit that won't directly affect gameplay but will affect list building flexibility? The only problem with that idea is that it will lead to even more unpainted units due to the fancy stuff not being unlocked yet. interesting idea - so you best get one unit painted to a standard that is still to be agreed upon. Will that include basing effects or will goblin green count? Well on Monday I should be fielding two or three fully painted units and one that's 65% of the way there (with some paint on the other 7 figs). I don't consider a miniature to be finished until the base is done. This makes me hate doing bases even more because I often want to do them before I'm finished just to get things over with.
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