"Raise Dead" spell

Yh i saw yuor post on FB
I also searched, and there are others who think it is either waaay OP or a bit hazy

You see the above also says , has to be in touch with combat or support , cannot be in contact with support, so again creates confusion. But from the rest of the description you kinda realise that they are suggesting complete seperate units behind the Unit in combat ,
Its doesnt help that a stand of figures touching the stand of figures in combat , is called a supporting unit, and they also refer to a "floating nearby" Unit as a support unit also

i also didnt understand teh answer of column are better defence for this, surely separated lines are a better defense, so as to cause separate combats wich cant be done

Also if the generally accepted result is place anywhere , im ok with that , but seeing as im actually reading rules these days, i want tog et it right

Also the Spell thast acts "Like a shooting " pushback , that skelleis are immune to , surely still works as it is a spell , not a shooting attack ? or are spells considered shooting

I didnt question it on the night as the "raise dead" issue was in full flow

I suppose its the only down side of having easy quick use rules, theres a few possible ambiguities

That is an interesting point about splitting the engagement. If I understand that right they are suggesting that by raising dead so they only contact a supporting unit (the position we didn’t place them in the end) that would’ve essentially created two separate combats because neither of the goblin units would be involved in the combat of the other (either by supporting or fighting). Which harks back to mine and bens argument over what is and isn’t separate combats. In this instance, on reflection, I think this situation would be two separate combats but would need to double check the rules again on separate combats.

Where we placed the raised dead unit, in the end, would be legal because my unit was fighting both the initially charged unit of gobbos and one stand of the supporting unit (the other two stands would still be supporting). That therefore would still be one combat/engagement. All something I will have to bear in mind when next I use the spell.

With regards to your pushback spell it specifically states “pushed back as of from shooting” which is why I was able to ignore it in that specific scenario - because of my ability to not give way and not be confused. If I’d not had a unit behind that had to give way then the spell would have worked normally. So the spell will work on TK but you have to be careful which unit you use it on. It won’t work on units like slayers or witch elves though as they cannot be pushed back by shooting.

In summary I think what we did in the end was correct but what I wanted to do was most likely wrong.

Sounds like I missed a useful evening. so this business of splitting or creating a new engagement is a red herring then? Are you going to share this power move?

Yeah was very interesting to also see how others play, yes of course I will share it, need to be shown it rather than explained.

Yh was interesting to see the "official ? " take on it, and am happy to go with it

Har har 😝